YES We show the termination of R/S, where R is f(0,1,x) -> f(s(x),x,x) f(x,y,s(z)) -> s(f(0,1,z)) and S is: rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) Since R almost dominates S and S is non-duplicating, it is enough to show finiteness of (P, Q). Here P consists of the dependency pairs f#(0,1,x) -> f#(s(x),x,x) f#(x,y,s(z)) -> f#(0,1,z) and Q consists of the rules: f(0,1,x) -> f(s(x),x,x) f(x,y,s(z)) -> s(f(0,1,z)) rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The weakly monotone algebra (N^2, >_lex) with f#_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2),(x3,y3)) = (x3, y3) 0_A = (1, 1) 1_A = (1, 1) s_A((x1,y1)) = (x1, y1 + 1) f_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2),(x3,y3)) = (x3, y3) rand_A((x1,y1)) = (x1 + 1, 0) strictly orients the following dependency pairs: f#(x,y,s(z)) -> f#(0,1,z) We remove them from the set of dependency pairs. The weakly monotone algebra (N^2, >_lex) with f#_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2),(x3,y3)) = (x1, 0) 0_A = (1, 1) 1_A = (1, 1) s_A((x1,y1)) = (0, 2) f_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2),(x3,y3)) = (x1 + 1, y1) rand_A((x1,y1)) = (x1 + 1, 0) strictly orients the following dependency pairs: f#(0,1,x) -> f#(s(x),x,x) We remove them from the set of dependency pairs. No dependency pair remains.