YES We show the termination of R/S, where R is pred(s(x)) -> x minus(x,0) -> x minus(x,s(y)) -> pred(minus(x,y)) quot(0,s(y)) -> 0 quot(s(x),s(y)) -> s(quot(minus(x,y),s(y))) and S is: rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) Since R almost dominates S and S is non-duplicating, it is enough to show finiteness of (P, Q). Here P consists of the dependency pairs minus#(x,s(y)) -> pred#(minus(x,y)) minus#(x,s(y)) -> minus#(x,y) quot#(s(x),s(y)) -> quot#(minus(x,y),s(y)) quot#(s(x),s(y)) -> minus#(x,y) and Q consists of the rules: pred(s(x)) -> x minus(x,0) -> x minus(x,s(y)) -> pred(minus(x,y)) quot(0,s(y)) -> 0 quot(s(x),s(y)) -> s(quot(minus(x,y),s(y))) rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The weakly monotone algebra (N^2, >_lex) with minus#_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x2 + 1, y2 + 2) s_A((x1,y1)) = (x1, y1 + 1) pred#_A((x1,y1)) = (0, 4) minus_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x1, y1) quot#_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x2 + 2, y2) pred_A((x1,y1)) = (x1, y1) 0_A = (1, 1) quot_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x1 + x2 + 1, y1 + 1) rand_A((x1,y1)) = (x1 + 1, 0) strictly orients the following dependency pairs: minus#(x,s(y)) -> pred#(minus(x,y)) minus#(x,s(y)) -> minus#(x,y) quot#(s(x),s(y)) -> minus#(x,y) We remove them from the set of dependency pairs. The weakly monotone algebra (N^2, >_lex) with quot#_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x1, y1) s_A((x1,y1)) = (x1, y1 + 1) minus_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x1, y1) pred_A((x1,y1)) = (x1, y1) 0_A = (1, 1) quot_A((x1,y1),(x2,y2)) = (x1 + x2 + 1, y1 + 1) rand_A((x1,y1)) = (x1 + 1, 0) strictly orients the following dependency pairs: quot#(s(x),s(y)) -> quot#(minus(x,y),s(y)) We remove them from the set of dependency pairs. No dependency pair remains.