YES We show the termination of R/S, where R is f(el(x),y) -> f(x,el(y)) and S is: f(x,y) -> f(l(x),y) f(x,y) -> f(x,r(y)) l(el(x)) -> el(l(x)) el(r(x)) -> r(el(x)) Since R almost dominates S and S is non-duplicating, it is enough to show finiteness of (P, Q). Here P consists of the dependency pairs f#(el(x),y) -> f#(x,el(y)) and Q consists of the rules: f(el(x),y) -> f(x,el(y)) f(x,y) -> f(l(x),y) f(x,y) -> f(x,r(y)) l(el(x)) -> el(l(x)) el(r(x)) -> r(el(x)) f#(x,y) -> f#(l(x),y) f#(x,y) -> f#(x,r(y)) The weakly monotone algebra (N, >) with f#_A(x1,x2) = x1 el_A(x1) = x1 + 1 f_A(x1,x2) = x1 l_A(x1) = x1 r_A(x1) = x1 + 1 strictly orients the following dependency pairs: f#(el(x),y) -> f#(x,el(y)) We remove them from the set of dependency pairs. No dependency pair remains.