YES We show the termination of the relative TRS R/S: R: g(s(x),y) -> g(f(x,y),y) S: f(x,y) -> x f(x,y) -> f(x,s(y)) -- SCC decomposition. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: g#(s(x),y) -> g#(f(x,y),y) and R consists of: r1: g(s(x),y) -> g(f(x,y),y) r2: f(x,y) -> x r3: f(x,y) -> f(x,s(y)) The estimated dependency graph contains the following SCCs: {p1} -- Reduction pair. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: g#(s(x),y) -> g#(f(x,y),y) and R consists of: r1: g(s(x),y) -> g(f(x,y),y) r2: f(x,y) -> x r3: f(x,y) -> f(x,s(y)) The set of usable rules consists of r1, r2, r3 Take the reduction pair: matrix interpretations: carrier: N^2 order: lexicographic order interpretations: g#_A(x1,x2) = x1 s_A(x1) = ((1,0),(1,1)) x1 + (2,1) f_A(x1,x2) = ((1,0),(1,0)) x1 + (1,1) g_A(x1,x2) = (0,0) The next rules are strictly ordered: p1 We remove them from the problem. Then no dependency pair remains.