YES We show the termination of the relative TRS R/S: R: g(x,y) -> x g(x,y) -> y f(s(x),y,y) -> f(y,x,s(x)) S: rand(x) -> x rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) -- SCC decomposition. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(x),y,y) -> f#(y,x,s(x)) and R consists of: r1: g(x,y) -> x r2: g(x,y) -> y r3: f(s(x),y,y) -> f(y,x,s(x)) r4: rand(x) -> x r5: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The estimated dependency graph contains the following SCCs: {p1} -- Reduction pair. Consider the non-minimal dependency pair problem (P, R), where P consists of p1: f#(s(x),y,y) -> f#(y,x,s(x)) and R consists of: r1: g(x,y) -> x r2: g(x,y) -> y r3: f(s(x),y,y) -> f(y,x,s(x)) r4: rand(x) -> x r5: rand(x) -> rand(s(x)) The set of usable rules consists of r1, r2, r3, r4, r5 Take the reduction pair: lexicographic combination of reduction pairs: 1. matrix interpretations: carrier: N^2 order: lexicographic order interpretations: f#_A(x1,x2,x3) = x1 + ((1,0),(1,1)) x2 s_A(x1) = ((1,0),(1,1)) x1 + (0,1) g_A(x1,x2) = x1 + x2 + (1,1) f_A(x1,x2,x3) = x1 + x2 rand_A(x1) = x1 + (1,1) 2. lexicographic path order with precedence: precedence: s > rand > f > g > f# argument filter: pi(f#) = 2 pi(s) = [1] pi(g) = 2 pi(f) = [] pi(rand) = [] The next rules are strictly ordered: p1 We remove them from the problem. Then no dependency pair remains.